This week we are joined by Ruben Andersson, anthropologist and associate professor of migration at University of Oxford’s Department of International Development. He is the author of Illegality Inc., and countless other articles that you can find at his website, www.rubenandersson.com.

In our discussion, we compare and contrast immigration policies and practices in the United States and Europe, our fascination with “border spectacles,” and why the real problem is anthropologists (not really).

Enjoy the discussion!